No sieve for me...

[Peppy]

...spent my entire Christmas bonus on Star Trek collectibles.

Now I have to save up for a sieve. I had planned to buy the sieve and spend what was left on the collectibles but dang it, I got carried away! Sure am going to enjoy them though!!:giggle:

[Carolinagirl]

You need to get your priorities straight!! lol!

I am a fine one to talk about priorities. It took me 6 years to finish building my house because I was too busy building koi ponds in the back yard!

[Peppy]

Now THAT is an obsession, LOL!

[koikeepr]

Star Trek?! Oh, c'mon Pep! You deserve a virtual bopping for that one! :smash head:

[Carolinagirl]

yep!! and I can't seem to get the back yard done either. I worked so hard to get my new pond done and the yard pretty so my family could see the yard looking nice on Thanksgiving. And you know what I did two days after thanksgiving? I tore the yard up and started yet another project!!

[koikeepr]

I don't think there's a Betty Ford type clinic for people like you Cgirl. So, your family is just going to have to put up with your illness...:giggle:

[Lilylady]

LOL!! I always have a project going. Just finished the new kitchen backsplash. And am waiting for the new stove's arrival. I will be cooking on GAS!!!!!!!

[Luvmypond]

LOL!! I always have a project going. Just finished the new kitchen backsplash. And am waiting for the new stove's arrival. I will be cooking on GAS!!!!!!!

ahhh I'm so jealous !!!! I like gas a lot better than electric. Lucky you

[Kntry]

LouAnn, where are the pics? You're going to love cooking on gas but it's a definite learning curve coming off electric!

Cindy and I subscribe to the clinic of "We're not obsessed, we can quit any time we want, we just don't want to."

[Lilylady]

LOL, I have been working hard on my knee. So when I get home, I will show yall. I am pleased with how it turned out. I used a porcelain that looks like slate. Don't tell Gary I told, we were almost done and he put his foot thru the ceiling. Good thing I like him!!!!
O, and for the record, I CAN stop anytime too!

[Meganne]

Louann I just might be mad at you :P::hissyfit:

[Will]

So that's what? 2,3 thousand dollars worth of Star Trek collectibles? WTF Peppy?

I mean, I liked the movies too, but Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick, woman! That's a bit out there.

I do sincerely hope you enjoy them. I merely don't understand how...

[koikeepr]

It means she hasn't officially come over to the dark side in terms of ponding. But, it seems, she's clearly been beamed up as far as Star Trek goes. LOL!

[Carolinagirl]

Like Sandy said...I can stop any time I want to. I just don't want to!!

[Meganne]

now that is finny...and somehow painfully true (crap, I can't spell funny! I swear I can stop any time too!)

[Will]

Hey, I can stop when I want to - generally every day, at some point.

[koikeepr]

So, like when we're sleeping?:fish:

[Will]

Well, when you're sleepnig, anyway. I don't sleep much anymore, drives my wife nuts. I'm generally plotting my next dastardly deeds in the wee hours, and sometimes give pond thoughts a break.

[Peppy]

Lilylady, all the professionals cook on gas, don't they? I hate electric. Gas is where it's at. Instant on and off. More control. Plus the most important thing about a gas stove is that you can toast marshmallows on it!!!

Yes, Peace, a little over $2k on Star Trek stuff. I'm so ashamed. I didn't realize as I was pointing and clicking how much stuff it would amount to. I converted my fish database to use for the Star Trek stuff but that still didn't give a good visual until it actually started arriving and then it got scary.

My sons are laughing their *sses off as well as my daughters-in-law when I took them up to the spare room to show them my stash. Even my granddaughters just stood there speechless. And, sadly, it's not even all here yet.

[Will]

Wow. Just... Wow. I have no response for that.

[Peppy]

Wow. Just... Wow. I have no response for that.

But there's more to it than just hoarding the stuff, lol. A friend of mine bought a crap-load of those painted ponies a few years ago, waited a few years, and then started selling them.

I've bought fairies that tripled in price the next year but I don't want to sell those because, well, I bought them because I liked them and still like them.

I thought I might try my luck with the Star Trek stuff since I'm a fan anyway and see what happens. I split the purchases between limited editions and not-limited since my one son says often it's the regular toys that end up being valuable since people save and take good care of the limited editions while the toys are often opened and used and discarded.

So I wait...

I can tell you one thing, nobody, but nobody, can do William Shatner. If someone ever makes a believable Captain Kirk, well, there goes my next bonus...

[Will]

I'd do a great Kirk. Just saying.

[addy1]

My honey loves syfy.........his fav thing

[Peppy]

You wouldn't be after my next bonus now, would you Will? lol

You know what's funny, Addy? I don't particularly like sci fi. I don't watch much sci fi at all. I hate the new Star Treks like TNG and all those. That tea drinking whimpy Picard is a sad substitute for the handsome and manly Kirk. I just can't get into any of the new series. I only like the old Star Treks, the old movies with the original cast, and the new remake of the old Star Trek with the new young cast.

My youngest son got me The Wrath of Kahn DVD and the new Star Trek DVD last year.

I'm not really a trekker either. Don't know the star dates or any of that minutae, just love love love it and always will.

[addy1]

We all have our passions!

[Will]

Wrath of Kahn is a great flick.

[koikeepr]

I love William Shatner on that new show $--t My Dad Says. He just cracks me up.

[Peppy]

I love that new show too. He's a hoot.

[Carolinagirl]

I liked Shatner much better in Boston Legal. I am not enjoying S%#t My Dad Says very much. I guess I was just hoping he would be more like Denny Crane. I loved that show and really miss it.

[Will]

Durn, girls, I guess I don't watch TV anymore. Too much scheming and plotting dastardly deeds, I guess...

[Meganne]

with you Will... I have not heard of most of those tv shows!


peppy, my old auntie collected those avon collectable purfume/aftershave bottles. they were going to be worth a fortune one day..... :lol:

[Will]

You know, my wife watches this show about people who hoard things, I guess so they'll be worth something someday might be one of their reasons. The show drives me nuts, I can't understand... Why not just get a CD or open a mutual fund? They'll be worth something a lot more dependably, and eat up a lot less space. Just saying. :giggle:

[Carolinagirl]

I dad collects antiques, specializing in clocks. Over the years, he has sort of slowly upgraded to a musuem quality collection. They are gorgeous.....but a whole wall full of them.....and I mean EVERY wall....is a bit much. I guess it sort of makes him a high-end horder. His collection really is worth much more then he paid for them, and he really loves looking at them so I get where Peppy is coming from. The clocks made my dad happy. Peppys' star trek stuff makes her happy (even though I don't really get it....lol). My christmas tree ornament collection makes me happy. I think collecting things that we love is a fun thing to do. So as long as we are not relying on our collections to get us through our retirement years, keep on doing what you enjoy. Lord knows these darn fish are about as worthless as you can get but we seem to keep collecting them! lol!

[Luvmypond]

I don't collect anything. But, I do have a theme in every room. The Coke/Pepsi dining room was pretty pricey. I do enjoy looking at the things I've bought. And people come over and say .... OMG I remember having one of those ... lol My son was here for Christmas and asked if he could have his old record player back .. I think people who collect things and enjoy them is different than people who hoard things and never see them after they bought them. My hubby's Dad is like that. 4 garages full of nothing but junk. You can't even walk through them let alone get a car in there. But, he refuses to get rid of anything.

[Carolinagirl]

right...horders don't collect anything specific....they collect and save EVERYTHING!! There's a big difference between collecting and hording. I enjoy the search! I love browsing Ebay, flea markets, antique shops, etc, looking for things to add to my collection. And since it's christmas stuff, I only get to enjoy it for 5 weeks or so, once a year. I collect antique pottery too. Some of it has gone way up in value, some of it I get just because I like it. But I sure do enjoy the hunt!

[addy1]

Tooooooooooools those are the one thing I can not get rid of.

http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab168/missyjosey/aminations/we00005.gif

[Luvmypond]

Everything in my dining room came off Ebay. I love it. We use to have antique shops here in my town, but they have all closed down. So now I have to travel to them. But, I do love antique shopping, whether I buy anything or not. My hubby is the tool collector ... If he has to use it just one time, he has to buy it ..... just in case he needs it again ... lol

[Will]

You know, Cindy, I was really just messing with poor Peppy. Really, Star Trek stuff might be pretty cool. The show was very avante garde in it's day, as they imagined no religion, no money, no inter-species war. A really uplifting vision of the future, that we can seek to emulate in many ways. Just like the Lennon song...

[Meganne]

ok gals you will be a little jelous...we have an auction house in town that supplies the Fla panhandle and lower Ala, miss. Ga. lower tri stare area antique stores.... and there is an auction on New Years Day!
anyone want to go with me?

[Meganne]

:snapoutofit:

Lord knows these darn fish are about as worthless as you can get but we seem to keep collecting them! lol!

do we REALLY want to go there? :lol:

[Meganne]

You know, Cindy, I was really just messing with poor Peppy. Really, Star Trek stuff might be pretty cool. The show was very avante garde in it's day, as they imagined no religion, no money, no inter-species war. A really uplifting vision of the future, that we can seek to emulate in many ways. Just like the Lennon song...

Will have you ever seen Star Trek? they have these nasty Klingon people that are not very friendly!





LOL...just pickin at you :big smile:

[Peppy]

This thread took off, didn't it?

I routinely go through closets looking for donation material because I don't like to keep a bunch of stuff but collecting is different. Most of the fairies are displayed in a beautiful oak display cabinet hubby bought me. All their boxes are folded neatly and stored away. If I ever get tired of looking at them, most are limited editions so I don't see any problem selling them. They're so beautiful and the detail is amazing. One I paid $39 for and bought two of them and last year they were selling for $300.

I agree about the CDs but won't put money where there's any possibility of losing it. While others lost a lot in the economic meltdown, I didn't lose a penny and ended up ahead in the long run. I'm a turtle investor I guess you could say. Slow but steady.

I have a database for the Star Trek stuff to track what I paid and periodically update what each is selling for. I'll know when the price is right to profit.

Already some of the stuff is unavailable or increased in price so I think I might end up doing okay. One item I paid $43 for is now selling for $120 to $250. Isn't that crazy?

Last year my bonus went to jewelry but this year I bought a friend the new John Lennon doll because she's a huge Beatles fan and collects everything Beatles. I couldn't believe what a great piece of art this doll was and wanted one for myself but I'm not a Beatles fan. I thought, gee, what AM I a fan of? Star Trek! So I started browsing and was ecstatic to see these adorable Star Trek figurines. Then I remembered a friend buying all those painted ponies and holding them and then selling them and ... well ... off I went!

So this will be an experience. I'll let you all know how I make out in the end.

[Meganne]

hey Peppy, what kind of fairies do you collect? have you seen the ones for sale handmade of fimo clay?
if you search OOAK fairy on dolls/collectabel on ebay there are some amazing artist....
http://cgi.ebay.com/OOAK-Commission-Fairy-Faerie-Fae-Deborah-McCain-IADR-/120661642841?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c17fe8e59

[Peppy]

Yes, I've seen them. Some are awful and some are incredible.

[Will]

I'd love to hear about it, Peppy. I'm coming to you from a carefully designed but small house, with very little storage. I guess I'll just keep building more. Next project: Create a pantry from my overly large master bath. Anyone know a good deal on a claw foot tub?

[Meganne]

Yes, I've seen them. Some are awful and some are incredible.

what do you collect?
look like picture time!


(posted this and realizes it looks like I am asking if you collect the awful or amazing ones! LOL!...that is not what I ment!)

[Peppy]

Will, I have a medium house, 2125 sq ft, but no basement and no attic storage and a garage full of pond crap and a monster truck. I let my husband get away with no basement because I was just happy to have a brand new house but I've been complaining ever since.

I've been thinking lately about laying a floor in the attic to store stuff up there. It's just that dang loose insulation. Man, I hate that stuff. The lazy man's insulation.

Pantries are great. I made sure to include a pantry in my house design and I just love love love it. I think it's nostalgic too because my best friend had one growing up and her mother used to send us in there to get stuff and, well, those were good times back then. We were truly blessed.

[Peppy]

Meg, I don't think I should post pictures others took.

HA!!! Here's the one I paid $39 for and have two of!:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SOLDOUT-Sheila-Wolk-2ND-Dragonsite-Fairy-LE-Chameleon-/380297427871?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588b7e3b9f

That's it, dang it. I started looking and saw one I didn't have that I like. Now Meg, look what you did! :hissyfit:

I haven't shopped for fairies in a very long time. I closed the browser. I will not get started on that again. Not at this time. I have no more room in my display case for one thing and no more room in my house for another display case.

I will not buy fairies. I will not buy fairies. I will not buy fairies...:nope::nope::nope:

[Meganne]

LOL I knew I'd get in trouble!

I like the hand made stuff, and can get drawn to the odd character as long as it is done well.
like this funny fellow...
http://cgi.ebay.com/TROLL-fae-fairy-fantasy-ooak-4-5-ADSG-WOW-Claydoodles-/260711612670?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb39f80fe

[Will]

Hey, trolls are cool, you know.

[addy1]

You are doing great with your collection peppy! congrats

http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab168/missyjosey/aminations/congratulationswoman.gif

[Peppy]

Thanks, Addy. I call it my Star Trek Stock Portfolio.:lol: I set up a database to track the prices and sort by any fields I choose so I'm all organized.

See the one here I paid too much for and now it's down (red arrow upper right corner of picture). Ouch! Thems the breaks. That's $9.51 out the window, lol.

Hopefully at some point that will change. Who knows. At least unlike the stock market I'll still have something to look at if it the bottom falls out of Star Trek collectibles.

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz282/koipondpeppy/Star%20Trek/collectiblesform-1.png



A button puts the information on a chart. Not much data so far since I just started, but the charts are cool with the pictures of whatever collectible it is, what I paid, and the price history (short history so far lol).


Cone chart:

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz282/koipondpeppy/Star%20Trek/coneschart.png


Cylinder chart:

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz282/koipondpeppy/Star%20Trek/columnchart.png


Line chart:

http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz282/koipondpeppy/Star%20Trek/linechart.png



If I end up profiting at some point, great, if not, heck, I just LOVE Star Trek so it's a cool collection to have and enjoy.


:cool:

[Meganne]

so where do the "current prices" come from? I mean unless you try to sell it, like an antique< you really don't know what you will get till you find a buyer, right?

[Peppy]

The current prices come from what they're selling for now either on ebay or Amazon or other toy stores, MIB or whatever.

Hey, Meg, I didn't look at your second fairy link. NO WAY! lol Are you trying to get me started back on fairies?:hmmm:

I think you should start buying fairies...:smiley-happy:

That one I posted is incredible in person. Amazing. The Sheila Wolk line is, IMO, the best. Her talent is awesome.

[Meganne]

I love the tail on the little troll listed on ebay!
here is one I did, not great but not to bad either...
http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz59/Meganne_photos/shelleyfairyslm2.jpg
http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz59/Meganne_photos/IMG_1676.jpg

[Peppy]

How cute! Do you sell them ebay?

[Luvmypond]

You made that ? That is awesome !! How cute. You are very talented.

[Luvmypond]

Peppy, I should of done something like that when I was buying all my Coke/Pepsi things. I didn't even keep track of how much I paid for the stuff. I only remember what I paid for the Coke and Pepsi machines. I wish I would of done what you did.

[addy1]

Wow you all make me feel like a slug, I don't even balance my bank account.

Peppy that is a great way to track your investment. I do the same..........what did I pay for that sucker! lol

[Luvmypond]

Yeah, I'm not computer savvy. I wouldn't know how to set up something like that on my computer. 99% of the stuff in my Coke room came off Ebay. Would of been smart of me to at least copy the bill of sale when I bought it .... lol
My checkbook is a hit or miss when I balance (or try to balance).

[addy1]

Laughing, I have never balanced the check book. Keep a running total in the lil brain, as long as close I am happy. Now all done via bill pay, love that, just check to make sure nobody tapping it except me!

There are a lot of programs out there luvmypond, that are easy to use and set up data bases with, that is if your are interested.

I http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab168/missyjosey/aminations/hand_applause.gif peppy for her effort!

[Luvmypond]

Easy is what I need ... lol My grand kids put me to shame when it comes to doing things on the computer.

[Peppy]

We all do what we know.

I learned GW Basic years ago to do payroll for our business--on a Commodore 64. No hard drive. Only Ram. If someone tripped over the cord or the power went out, I had to type the whole payroll program into the computer again. No printer, had to remember the program or think it out again from scratch. That was a great teacher.

When my son went to computer school, I'd grab his VBA book soon as his foot was in the door at night. Got double my money's worth for his tuition. I was ahead of him on every chapter and he was the one asking me questions.

I have to track things for our business that QuickBooks can't handle, so VBA is put to good use. I have a 99% paperless office with receipts a mouseclick away. So it makes sense to do that personally too. Not all receipts, but anything I might want to look at in the future. Like all my fish, my pond equipment, fairies, etc. and now the Star Trek stuff.

The benefits are:

a) knowing a good deal to buy compared to what I paid and the price history
b) knowing when to sell or when not to sell
c) grouping items to know what's needed to complete a collection

The whole thing's an experiment but at least if the bottom falls out, I'll still have something to look at.:lol:

I always use the lowest price I can find for the current price. No use deluding myself.

If you decide to start a collection of something (for instance, hubby collects guns, certain old cars and I started a die cast collection for him a few years ago) make it something you love but here's the thing, there is always someone who doesn't know what they have and that's what you look for.

I paid ridiculous low prices for a few things. Just one example of many: a guy was selling this one item for $12.50 (by mistake I guess) and I grabbed it. He then raised his price after finding out what he had. $12.50 for an item that sells for a minimum of $79. That's the kind of thing you need to look for.

I'm no expert, just using common sense and a wish and a prayer! lol

[Luvmypond]

I should of kept track of a lot of things. My hubby has a collection of die cast cars. Mostly Corvettes. Never kept track of the price of those either. I always think if I don't keep track of the price of things, than I wouldn't freak out at the total cost of a certain hobby.

[Meganne]

ok since you all begged me I will show you what I got from the auction new years day...
new/old mirrors for my retro bathroom
http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz59/Meganne_photos/IMG_4641.jpg

[Luvmypond]

Very cool Meganne. I do love retro !!

[Meganne]

love it or not I am stuck with it! can't gut the bathroom! lol!

[addy1]

love it or not I am stuck with it! can't gut the bathroom! lol!

AWWWWWWWWWW why not! laughing, bathrooms are work. We are going to be gutting one to make it wheel chair accessible.

Like the mirrors you picked up.

[koikeepr]

those are pretty and look a bit french. Ooh la la!

[Peppy]

Are those new retro because they look new or are in incredible shape for their age. Very cool.:cool:

[Meganne]

they are old. my Steve immediatly pointed out two scratches when I got home with them.....:gah: what did he think? I mean I was at an ANTIQUE auction, duh!


wheelchair accs.? are we planning ahead Addy?
If I could I would make ours a shower bath like my father in laws in england. a drain in the floor and the entire bathroom is tiled to th ceiling, no tub, the shower is separated from the toilet and sink just by a curtain, you could rinse the whole room down if you had a mind to. great set up for a wheelchair which my M-I-L was needing when they did the bathroom that way.

[Will]

I've got two bathrooms here that need gutting. The last rooms to be redone. I'd love to put claw foot tubs in both, but what I've found so far is prohibitively expensive. Prohibitively for me, anyway.

Stayed at the Duvall Hotel in Jacksonville last summer for a week, they had an awesome retro redecoration a couple of years ago, and their bathrooms were set up like that. Pretty cool. The bathrooms were closed off from the room itself by only these waterproof sliding glass walls, pretty neat, but made you feel funny on the toilet, even though it was textured glass.

[Luvmypond]

We only have one bathroom. That was the first room to be gutted when we bought the house. It is done in mostly wood. Bead board half way up the walls and on the ceiling. It has the cast iron tub with no shower. We put in one of those free standing showers. My house is old, so the remodel took it back to looking old. I love it.

[Will]

Sounds great.

[Carolinagirl]

LOVE the mirrors, Meg! Aren't antique auctions just the best??? Bathrooms can be REALLY expensive to do! Most of you know I built my house myself. It's a two-bedroom house, but we only got one bedroom and bath done in order to move in. The master bed and bath are framed up and wired, but that's it. That bath will be fun! That will be a project I might start trying to tackle in the spring. I'd really really love to have a second bathroom in this house!!

[addy1]

wheelchair accs.? are we planning ahead Addy?
If I could I would make ours a shower bath like my father in laws in england. a drain in the floor and the entire bathroom is tiled to th ceiling, no tub, the shower is separated from the toilet and sink just by a curtain, you could rinse the whole room down if you had a mind to. great set up for a wheelchair which my M-I-L was needing when they did the bathroom that way.

Laughing, that is what we are doing to the bath, you have described our final project to the T. We bought a foreclosure down where his dad lives, 55+ area. Can not get a wheel chair into the bathrooms. So we are converting one of the bathrooms to be totally wc accessible. We will be renting it out when done. Nice heated swimming pool right out of our door.

[Carolinagirl]

You want to see my favorite Fairy maker? Check this one out on Ebay. Her stuff is AMAZING!!!!! And really expensive too. I just got a notice of this listing this morning.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300510814794&ssPageName=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1123

[addy1]

Very nice! Looks like beautiful craftsmanship.

[Meganne]

there are a handful of pretty amazing dall artist who sell on ebay. Cindy have you seen the ball joined ones? I would think they are very delicate

[Carolinagirl]

I never saw a jointed one....but I found this. http://cgi.ebay.com/OOAK-Fantasy-White-Skin-Super-Tiny-Ball-Jointed-Doll-/200560770848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb25a7f20 Kind of creepy looking and not really high end, but still....LOTS better than I could do! I bet it is really fragile.

MUCH better!! http://cgi.ebay.com/OOAK-FAIRY-BALL-JOINTED-art-doll-CDLITE-/330514770289?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf4372971

[Peppy]

Arrrrrrrrrrrggggggh! with the fairies already!

...i will not buy fairies. i will not buy fairies...geez a lou

[Meganne]

the second one Cindy, yes, that was the one I saw also. but it says it is made of polymer clay but the creepy one says resin and strung inside with bands, maybe the other has a clay sculped head? the bodies look to be made the same :dunno:


Peppy........... :giggle: I find some more fairy treasures for you
that way you wont have to look for yourself, what are friends for :big smile:

[Meganne]

kinda funky but I like her...
http://www.etsy.com/listing/64675510/joya-art-doll?ref=v1_other_1

[Meganne]

and this one!
http://www.etsy.com/listing/65333032/ooak-baby-snowflake-by-malga?ref=sr_gallery_40&ga_search_query=art+dolls&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_page=6&order=&includes%5B0%5D=tags&includes%5B1%5D=title&filter%5B0%5D=handmade

[Carolinagirl]

Meg....LOVE the first one you posted. The second link is to a whole page, but I looked through it and saw some really neat ones. and some really really odd ones too....like the monsters!! TOO funny!

[Meganne]

good grief you are an early bird Cindy! haha

so we both like "unique" when it comes to this kind of stuff. lol
I saw the monsters(the colorful stuffed rag dolls), fun aren't they

I guess lisa can throw us(this thread) over to the outside/chat section ....we have gone waaayyyyy off topic!

[Peppy]

Peppy........... I find some more fairy treasures for you
that way you wont have to look for yourself, what are friends for

Hey Meg, with friends like that...you know the rest, LOL.:P::lol:

I know my weaknesses. No looking at fairies for me. Period.:nope:

One of my 3 son's favorite sayings is: if you don't buy it, you can't eat it.

Extrapolating from that: if you don't see it, you can't buy it!:smiley-happy:

[Meganne]

how about....
"is it a want or a need?" .......:nana:

[Peppy]

That depends on your definition of the word need. Spiritually and emotionally, I need the fairies. And the Star Trek stuff.:yes:

[koikeepr]

You spiritually and emotionally need Star Trek toys, Pep?! LOL! Oh dear!

[Appliance Guy]

ahhh I'm so jealous !!!! I like gas a lot better than electric. Lucky you

The higher end homes I go into have gas 8 burner cooktops and seperate electric double ovens, some with warming drawers. Either Wolfe, Viking, Five Star, or Thermador

Gas is better for cooktops, as it provides quick, even heat that electric just can't do. Conversly the opposite is true for ovens. Gas ovens are known for longer cooking, drier foods and uneven baking. Electic ovens are not.